Joanna: Oh, yeah, I do a lot of overhead stuff. And one thing that really helps, and I want you to try, this just hang dead from a chin-up bar. And then I thought your shoulder was hurting and I've torn my rotator cuff twice. Patrick: Well, you're out there doing it. Joanna: Probably not as big weights as you do. I was listening to your podcast, maybe two or three episodes ago, with the doctor about wellness for… I am now retired from the Milwaukee Police Department.Īs far as what I do, I love working out. I'm an empty nester with four adult kids and one grandchild. I live there with my wife and three dogs. I live in Wisconsin, about an hour-and-a-half northwest of Chicago, Illinois, if that gives somebody a frame of reference. I just wanted to thank you because all the information that you had out there was very informative and it really sparked my imagination and got me into this. Joanna: Oh, wow, you've been around a while then. And remember, Simon Whistler, ‘Rocking Self-Publishing,' I think it was. Joanna: Way back in the day, although the ‘Story Studio Podcast' is back now. It was you and Johnny, Sean, and Dave, their podcast. So, I have to thank you publicly for that. You are one of the first podcasts I ever listened to about self-publishing, and that's what really piqued my interest. This is an honor and a privilege to be on your show. Patrick: First off, I just want to thank you again. Before we get into it, tell us a bit more about you and why you decided to get into helping writers after being in the police so long. And I know people have so many questions about that. Patrick: Thank you, Joanna, for having me on your show. Joanna: Patrick O'Donnell is a retired American police sergeant and the author of the ‘Cops and Writers' reference books for authors and screenwriters as well as a technical consultant for crime and police procedural novels. Transcript of Interview with Patrick O'Donnell The double-edged sword of technology in the police.What TV and film get wrong about the police.How police officers deal with survivor’s guilt.Writing three-dimensional police characters.Common mistakes that writers make about the police.Here are the highlights and full transcript below. You can listen above or on your favorite podcast app or read the notes and links below. Patrick O'Donnell is a retired American police sergeant and the author of the Cops and Writers reference books for authors and screenwriters as well as a technical consultant for crime and police procedural novels. Take back your freedom. Choose your price, choose how you sell, choose how you distribute audio. Today's podcast sponsor is Findaway Voices, which gives you access to the world's largest network of audiobook sellers and everything you need to create and sell professional audiobooks. Plus, my sell direct tutorial How to Make a Living with Your Writing 3rd edition talking about the audio eco-system and a discussion on Your Author Business Plan In the intro, thoughts on a digital sales webinar from Ingram Content the Immersive Books & Media 2020 Research Report how to Audible subscription earnings work and how close I came to being taken in by scammers posing as traditional publishers. How can you write nuanced police characters in your crime novels? What are some under-used crimes that might make interesting plots? Patrick O'Donnell talks about Cops and Writers in the interview today. Subscribe: Google Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | TuneIn | RSS | More
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